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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3838</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy,
Sorry you had lost all those reader email addresses, here&#039;s hoping you&#039;ve found 10x the amount of readers since then. I&#039;ve actually cut down my list of groups considerably. But, really do use the ones I have on a regular basis. Thanks for your honesty, it&#039;s always nice to be informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy,<br />
Sorry you had lost all those reader email addresses, here&#8217;s hoping you&#8217;ve found 10x the amount of readers since then. I&#8217;ve actually cut down my list of groups considerably. But, really do use the ones I have on a regular basis. Thanks for your honesty, it&#8217;s always nice to be informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Cooper-Posey</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3833</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Cooper-Posey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Susan!

The hackers are drawn to Yahoo Groups, because there&#039;s large databases of targeted email addresses they can pirate (the words &quot;erotic&quot; and &quot;romance&quot; draw them like pixies to honey).  I think that&#039;s why mine was hacked.  I had close to a thousand addresses.  I lost them all -- they didn&#039;t just copy them, they *took* them.  Luckily, I had an old, back-up copy on my hard drive, but it was out of date, and short by about 250 addresses.

I tried a pay-for professional service for over a year, but it&#039;s *too* professional -- forcing readers to go through three screens worth of sign-up dialogue just scares &#039;em away.  I don&#039;t care what the Can-Spam act says, readers just want to get to the good stuff, pronto.  The pay-for services like iContact work for professional marketers who work their email contact lists daily, and need the double-opt in as much for their own protection as the receiver does.  And with as many subscribers as I&#039;ve got, and given how much authors really make, paying over $50 US a month plus exchange rates was killing me.

So I went the DIY route, instead.  The contact list lives safely on my hard drive, and I have a remote back-up server on my own home network, so it&#039;s double-safe.  I have 100% control over everything, and any reader who signs up gets my personal attention from start to finish.  

It&#039;s not Yahoo Groups by a long chalk.  But it works for me.  And it seemed to work for my readers, too.  I got so many &quot;It&#039;s good to have you back!&quot; messages when I got rid of iContact, that it was scary.

Tracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Susan!</p>
<p>The hackers are drawn to Yahoo Groups, because there&#8217;s large databases of targeted email addresses they can pirate (the words &#8220;erotic&#8221; and &#8220;romance&#8221; draw them like pixies to honey).  I think that&#8217;s why mine was hacked.  I had close to a thousand addresses.  I lost them all &#8212; they didn&#8217;t just copy them, they *took* them.  Luckily, I had an old, back-up copy on my hard drive, but it was out of date, and short by about 250 addresses.</p>
<p>I tried a pay-for professional service for over a year, but it&#8217;s *too* professional &#8212; forcing readers to go through three screens worth of sign-up dialogue just scares &#8216;em away.  I don&#8217;t care what the Can-Spam act says, readers just want to get to the good stuff, pronto.  The pay-for services like iContact work for professional marketers who work their email contact lists daily, and need the double-opt in as much for their own protection as the receiver does.  And with as many subscribers as I&#8217;ve got, and given how much authors really make, paying over $50 US a month plus exchange rates was killing me.</p>
<p>So I went the DIY route, instead.  The contact list lives safely on my hard drive, and I have a remote back-up server on my own home network, so it&#8217;s double-safe.  I have 100% control over everything, and any reader who signs up gets my personal attention from start to finish.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not Yahoo Groups by a long chalk.  But it works for me.  And it seemed to work for my readers, too.  I got so many &#8220;It&#8217;s good to have you back!&#8221; messages when I got rid of iContact, that it was scary.</p>
<p>Tracy</p>
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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3830</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tracy,

I have to admit, you get the trophy for being &quot;unique.&quot; 
Your newsletters beat all, they&#039;re like opening a mini-book. Love it!

Tracy and Keira:
All this talk about spamming &amp; hacking makes me want to shut down my computer! I understand your points and of course&#039; its validity, which is why I have Norton 360. For other times of vulnerability, I just cross fingers and toes for the tiki gods to protect me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tracy,</p>
<p>I have to admit, you get the trophy for being &#8220;unique.&#8221;<br />
Your newsletters beat all, they&#8217;re like opening a mini-book. Love it!</p>
<p>Tracy and Keira:<br />
All this talk about spamming &amp; hacking makes me want to shut down my computer! I understand your points and of course&#8217; its validity, which is why I have Norton 360. For other times of vulnerability, I just cross fingers and toes for the tiki gods to protect me. <img src='http://www.loveromancepassion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3829</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keira,
Some of the author groups I belong to &quot;do&quot; have blogs, which I read. These authors have both blogs and groups. They have both, I follow both.    (LOL)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keira,<br />
Some of the author groups I belong to &#8220;do&#8221; have blogs, which I read. These authors have both blogs and groups. They have both, I follow both.    (LOL)</p>
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		<title>By: Keira</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3827</link>
		<dc:creator>Keira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I hate spammers. Groups are loaded with that and what&#039;s more Yahoo doesn&#039;t put them in the spam filter even after I marked them as spam. They keep coming up in comment moderation (something I had to implement after years without it because of spammers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hate spammers. Groups are loaded with that and what&#8217;s more Yahoo doesn&#8217;t put them in the spam filter even after I marked them as spam. They keep coming up in comment moderation (something I had to implement after years without it because of spammers).</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Cooper-Posey</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3826</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Cooper-Posey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to point out that many authors have newsletters that don&#039;t run through Yahoo Groups -- it&#039;s the same idea, but Groups is the free version.  I used to use Groups, but the limitations in presentation eventually forced me to move the newsletter elsewhere.  (I have a very graphics heavy newsletter, including eye-candy).

And I got tired of the hackers and spammers trying to get at my subscription list, which I worked hard to build up for three years, before some jerk destroyed it overnight.

Now I run my newsletter through my own system.  Combined with my blog, where I can still get readers chatting back and forth, just like on Groups, I have the best of both worlds, and so do the readers.

But I love Yahoo Groups for everything else that you include above.

Tracy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to point out that many authors have newsletters that don&#8217;t run through Yahoo Groups &#8212; it&#8217;s the same idea, but Groups is the free version.  I used to use Groups, but the limitations in presentation eventually forced me to move the newsletter elsewhere.  (I have a very graphics heavy newsletter, including eye-candy).</p>
<p>And I got tired of the hackers and spammers trying to get at my subscription list, which I worked hard to build up for three years, before some jerk destroyed it overnight.</p>
<p>Now I run my newsletter through my own system.  Combined with my blog, where I can still get readers chatting back and forth, just like on Groups, I have the best of both worlds, and so do the readers.</p>
<p>But I love Yahoo Groups for everything else that you include above.</p>
<p>Tracy</p>
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		<title>By: Keira</title>
		<link>http://www.loveromancepassion.com/why-i-joined-author-yahoo-groups/#comment-3825</link>
		<dc:creator>Keira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I belong to fanfic groups lol. :) Did you follow these Yahoo groups because the author didn&#039;t have a blog? Or did they and you do both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I belong to fanfic groups lol. <img src='http://www.loveromancepassion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Did you follow these Yahoo groups because the author didn&#8217;t have a blog? Or did they and you do both?</p>
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